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I do think that forcing regularly is important as well, but I don't think daily forcing is necessary.

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In fact, it clearly isn't, given the amount of perfectly fine tulpa's I have seen and known who do not receive attention every single day. (edited)

But you don't have to find a whole hour for it each day, in my opinion

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"Sorry tulpa, you get to stay in the closet all day today."

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._.

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I think it doesn't work like that, @Deleted User

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I'm starting to wonder if most tulpas just... have no desires or ambitions

9:45 AM

I suppose something that's happy to be ignored for a full day can't really be compared to a person

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L/ it seems some of them have not the same needs as you. I think not actively spending time with a tulpa doesn't count as ignoring them.

9:48 AM

To be honest, I've met exactly two systems with tulpas like me. I suppose I'm the exception to the rule.

9:50 AM

To me, it kinda seems hard to not call tulpas just glorified imaginary friends if they do nothing but talk with their host/people online, are okay with being ignored for long periods of time, and don't have any ambitions

agh I was away

I appreciate you caring for other tulpas. But not all of us have the same needs.

9:52 AM

And it's not like tulpas without ambitions like yours or mine are worse than us

There is a rather large range of tulpas besides "needy tulpas that need attention every day" and "toy-lpas".

I mean... I kinda disagree

As you seem to be referring to.

I cannot see tulpas that just talk to their hosts every day and do nothing else as people.

And, no. Not all tulpas have the same needs.

Those are pets.

You seem to be dismissing tulpas that actively switch and communicate and do have aspirations, but don't care to clog up the time of their host every day with interaction when there isn't a point or interest.

Well tbh I forgot they exist since they aren't that common

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But well... I'm not sure to what degree they count, either

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You know, pets aren't inherently worse than people too. Besides, why to force these "pets" to become "real tulpas"?

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If you're just switching in to play Overwatch and having everyone refer to you as your host, are you really being your own person?

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I'm not saying to do that, Luna

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But there should be a distinction between the two, I guess

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Being lumped into the same categorisation as pet tulpas bothers me

tbh I talk to internet people all day and do nothing else as a person

I'm not a very good person

smh maybe I just have too high standards

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Oh well

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Afk showering now

Alexis, I've mentioned similar, but I would draw the line at how the tulpa actually acts and whether they have agency rather than how attention seeking they are.

10:04 AM

Besides which, we don't know their behavior outside of here unless they say it - so I would not judge them on that basis prior to them actually making points indicating such underdevelopment.

Also, sometimes tulpa might not really want to be active. Like me yesterday or now.

We started with Aurora making friends with my real life friends. At least the very close ones. After awhile it was very clear it made them extremely uncomfortable. So after awhile of putting up with that we decided it would probably be better if we pretended the whole thing just went away. It still altered those friendships permanently though and I hardly talk with those people anymore. Aurora holds a lot of disdain for most people now. Not that it wasn't there before, but it's much more pronounced now. Since then Aurora has gone with the "Just another part of me/us approach." Everyone gets a say in what we choose to do day to day so they don't feel like "just" passengers.

That's unfortunate

10:38 AM

But it might not be clear for people who don't experience it

Sorry, I'm not sure exactly what you meant by that. 3:40am here(gotta work on my weekend) I'm probably not fully awake yet

Oh, that's an hour to be awake

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I mean people might not understand it and I'm not surprised by it

Okay yeah. Sorry. Ha. Should probably wake up more. But yeah we get up 2am 3 days out of the week and 1am 2 days out of the week. At least it's a bit later when I have to cover for someone on my weekend.

10:49 AM

Back to topic. My wife is okay with it. Not 100% bit her ex husband had untreated diagnosed schizophrenia (He refused his meds) and was basically trying to treat himself with meth. So she has really bad experiences/memories pseudo related. So her aversion at first was completely understandable. (edited)

10:50 AM

My mother also knows. But we don't have any plans to tell anyone else in the immediate future.

Neither do we.

10:57 AM

We also told our mother. And regret it.

Yeah.... kind of regret it too. But she needed to know why the wife and I were having trouble in our relationship. I didn't really know what to say. Mom seems much more okay with it than the friend's did though. After I explained her exact words were ...."That makes alot of sense"

I think we won't have a wife. Marriage is against our values. But if we want to be in close relationship with someone, it will be relationship of all of us.

I guess for now we are all just trying to keep things as normal I guess you would say is possible. My tulpa and I were taking a break the year or so leading up to my wife and I'd marriage. And we have been married over a year. I don't really know how to explain it but it's like we're trying to keep things at least for now what my wife married to make it easier on her because she does have past experiences with something like this from her perspective.

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Even though i was with my wife when all the stuff started 6ish years ago.

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But ideally that is what we want as well.

I seem to recall some people having made lists of things you could do during active forcing

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Does anyone have a link to any of those?

Something like this? https://community.tulpa.info/thread-misc-42-1-2-things-to-do-with-your-tulpa https://aminoapps.com/c/tulpashosts/page/blog/70-things-to-do-while-forcing/aV21_QKpS0uKkm4rmnkap64pk6VEaM3704d

42 1/2 Things to Do with Your Tulpa

42 1/2 Things to Do with Your Tulpa Write a story together. Stage a debate. Flip a coin to pick sides. Do yoga in wonderland with your tulpa. Read your tulpa a book. Start a conversation with your tul

70 Things to do While Forcing | Tulpas & Hosts Amino

This took forever when I first started making this list. It also took forever writing this out on th

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Like that, yes

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My host actually wrote one of those, though it never got passed around too much

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I don't know if I still have it. It's on google docs somewhere.

tulpas sit in a pretty unique relationship slot like a child peer combo

What

probly thinking of things too much in the terms of games and got thinking of what normal relationships are closest to where a tulpa fits in

Most tulpas I know are fully mature and don't resemble children at all

not exactly but you kind of at least help them grow and progress either way very close family members (edited)

Meh, we're pretty independent from our host at this point, we don't require her help at all (edited)

well that makes sense ok then some one coming out of a coma then

5:10 PM

but I was literally thinking of inventory slots for relationships and Hanna didnt feel like she fit into the standard family or friend slots

We've always sort of tulpas as being kind of like a step above a sibling-relationship, and a step below a romantic one, in our case

5:12 PM

Since we're closer and more affectionate than siblings would be, but not enough that we're romantic towards one another

Love is certainly paramount to us. But not the romantic kind.

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I would really classify it as something else entirely. Until someone invents a machine that can allow humans to talk mind to mind in a real sense, as in sharing thoughts and the like. I don't think we will really have a word for that kind of relationship.

I guess I forgot that part at first. I don't expect her to be a child but it's in a very close I feel to a child parent child relationship but I also see her at or around my own age and while not a goal is more romacable than a child

As a people I mean. We can use words and terms to describe it. But none of then will really fit

the only reason I would consider hooking my brain to a computer would be for tulpa related fun

5:18 PM

you know in real life decent relationships could be very important to good character builds

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if I could have a dedicated matrix server I would pretty much make that my wonderland

We regard eachother like roommates

ya I can agree with that mental roommates

Yeah I can see that.

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We Care a lot more about each other than I've ever cared about any sort of roommate but I can see how one could make that distinction

I think for me I feel like Hanna is the best "thing" I've had a hand in creating

I mean. It's going to be different for everyone. Depending on the reason why you made a tulpa in the first place

ehg I was looking for a way to get away from uh "rude" stuff so I started looking into lucid dreaming that lead to what I can remember where called something like "mind dolls" or something like that(which I imaning are like sevitors for sex) that lead me to a joke post on tulpa.info then to the actual tulpa community

DreamViews?

I realized that I'd rather just have a friend and not some mindless doll so that got me into tulpa's propper

Welcome to the fold.

well I've been here for years but thanks

Lol. More of a joke than anything

well not here but in the community for a while now

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ah

.info is a nice quiet place. Glad I found that first and not some of the others

yup it was mind dolls and some guy was offering to do hypnosis sessions till you had one that I figure would pretty much be a slave tulpa or a really advened servator for like a couple hundred bucks

So he basically "forced" for you for money. What a scumbag.

I can't find the hypnosis guy anymore though

I hope he's gone. Those people aren't tulpa-people.

@Clo not just that a force you a sex slave tulpa based on an image/character of your choosing

Wow I've never heard anything like that before

I'm glad I didn't go down that path